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# Daisies in vases

## Task

Jasmine has eight daisies and three vases - one large, one medium-sized and one small.

She puts 5 daisies in the large vase, 2 in the medium vase and 1 in the small vase.

- Can you find another way to put daisies so that there are the most in the large vase and least in the small vase?
- Try to find as many ways as you can put the daisies in the vases with the most in the large vase and the least in the smallest vase. If you think you have found them all, explain how you know those are all the possibilities.

## IM Commentary

This instructional task can be thought of as a sequel to K.OA.3, which asks students to consider all the decompositions of a number into two addends.

Because first grade students may have trouble reading this task even thought they are intellectual capable of working on this problem, it will help if the teacher reads the prompt to the students and then has them work together in pairs or small groups. Some students will interpret "most" to mean "strictly greater than" and some will allow for the possibility that "most" and "second most" are actually equal. Either interpretation of "most" is fine as long as the students are consistent with this interpretation throughout. Similarly, whether a vase can remain empty can be left to students and teachers.

The Standards for Mathematical Practice focus on the nature of the learning experiences by attending to the thinking processes and habits of mind that students need to develop in order to attain a deep and flexible understanding of mathematics. Certain tasks lend themselves to the demonstration of specific practices by students. The practices that are observable during exploration of a task depend on how instruction unfolds in the classroom. While it is possible that tasks may be connected to several practices, only one practice connection will be discussed in depth. Possible secondary practice connections may be discussed but not in the same degree of detail.

This particular task helps illustrate Mathematical Practice Standard 2, Reason abstractly and quantitatively. Students make sense of quantities and how they are related in a problem situation. In the task at hand, students first create a meaningful representation of the problem by using objects, pictures, or equations. Then, they manipulate the objects, pictures, or equations by finding different 3-number combinations of daisies in the vases totaling eight. Lastly, students periodically contextualize the problem by connecting the mathematical objects or symbols back to the context. Thus, students build meaning for the mathematical symbols by reasoning about the problem rather than memorizing an abstract set of rules or procedures. Problems that begin with a context and are represented with mathematical objects or symbols can also be examples of modeling with mathematics (MP.4).

## Solution

The full list is:

- $8$ in the large, and none in the others, which we abbreviate as $8,0,0$.
- $7$ in large, $1$ in medium, $0$ in small, which we abbreviate as $7,1,0$.
- $6, 2, 0$
- $6, 1, 1$
- $5, 3, 0$
- $5,2,1$
- $4, 4, 0$
- $4, 3, 1$
- $4, 2, 2$
- $3, 3, 2$

If students and the teacher decide to not allow empty vases or equal numbers, there are only two possibilities, the other being $4,3,1$. It is likely that at least equal amounts will be allowed, in which case there are five possibilities.

One full solution strategy is to first decide how many are in the first vase, and then decide from there how many in the second and third vases.

## Daisies in vases

Jasmine has eight daisies and three vases - one large, one medium-sized and one small.

She puts 5 daisies in the large vase, 2 in the medium vase and 1 in the small vase.

- Can you find another way to put daisies so that there are the most in the large vase and least in the small vase?
- Try to find as many ways as you can put the daisies in the vases with the most in the large vase and the least in the smallest vase. If you think you have found them all, explain how you know those are all the possibilities.

## Comments

Log in to comment## krimbey says:

over 6 yearsAt the CPAM conference, our group suggested the following re-wording of this task:

"Jasmine had 8 flowers in 3 vases - one tall, one medium, and one short.

She put 5 flowers in the tall vase, 2 in the medium vase, and 1 in the short vase.

Find different ways to put the flowers in the vases so the twll vase has the most and the short vase has the least. if you think you have found all the different ways, can you explain why?"

We recommend the following scaffolding suggestion for instruction: Include pictures of the three empty vases. Recommend as a small group setting activity. Recommend acting out the problem as a class before students work independently.

## Dev Sinha says:

over 6 yearsThese are nice suggestions for students with less experience. They remind me of having kindergarteners do "shake and spill" activities before asking them to find (all) ways to make a number by adding two numbers. One can also "extend" in the other direction: asking students who have more experience to write number sentences describing their solutions (e.g. 8 = 4 + 3 + 1).

Just about any task can be made more accessible or more challenging depending on lead up or follow up activities. Sharing good ideas for such in comments is appreciated!

## Catherine Parker says:

over 6 yearsI just used this problem at an Elementary PD workshop. Many of the teachers were uncomfortable at first with the ambiguity of the question which led to various solutions and a debate on whether to allow empty vases or equal values. However, if the question were more explicit, we would have lost the opportunity to use the Mathematical Practices (particularly MP.2 and MP.3). Learning happens when you have to adjust and compensate in a state of disequilibrium. What makes this illustration so valuable IS the ambiguity.

I had teachers asking, "Can I put NO daisies in a vase?" which led to a great discussion about zero: does zero not have a value? or, does it have a value, which happens to be nothing? The concept of zero is fuzzy for young students just developing numeracy - what a great opportunity to address it with a concrete problem. Great illustration! I hope no one removes the rigor when they try this with their students.

## Bill says:

over 6 yearsDear Catherine,

Thanks for trying out the task, and for the comment about how it links to the practice standards. Very useful!

Bill McCallum